{"id":2329,"date":"2022-04-04T10:35:39","date_gmt":"2022-04-04T01:05:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.theasiangame.net\/?p=2329"},"modified":"2026-09-23T15:51:57","modified_gmt":"2026-09-23T06:21:57","slug":"opinion-does-it-matter-where-you-play","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theasiangame.net\/ro\/opinion-does-it-matter-where-you-play\/","title":{"rendered":"OPINION: Does it matter where you play?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 id=\"saudi-arabia-stamped-their-qualification-for-qatar-2022-with-a-display-against-australia-at-jeddah-s-king-abdullah-sports-city-stadium-that-was-the-perfect-encapsulation-of-modern-saudi-football\" class=\"wp-block-heading\">Saudi Arabia stamped their qualification for Qatar 2022 with a display against Australia at Jeddah\u2019s King Abdullah Sports City Stadium that was the perfect encapsulation of modern Saudi football.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They were disciplined and aggressive. They attacked with intensity and with a freedom that allowed their natural talent and instincts to shine. As full time approached, and the party atmosphere inside the stadium began to reach fever, the Green Falcons were out there just having fun and showing a little razzle dazzle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The scoreboard showed it was a 1-0 win, but it could and should have been so much more were it not for the heroics of Maty Ryan in Australia\u2019s goal; the custodian, struggling for minutes at Spain\u2019s Real Sociedad, producing two world class saves to deny Salem Al-Dawsari and Firas Al-Buraikan in a second-half blitz from the Saudis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Leading the charge for the Saudis were the usual suspects &#8211; Al-Dawsari, Salman Al-Faraj and Yasser Al-Shahrani, as well as Mohamed Kanno, who has surely developed into one of Asia\u2019s best central midfielders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, primarily because of where they play their club football, do we fully appreciate and value their talent and success?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What has been interesting in the discourse around the current state of the Socceroos has been the discussion about where Australia\u2019s footballers are, or more to the point, aren\u2019t playing their football.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gone are the days of the so-called \u2018Golden Generation\u2019 playing at the very top of European football in England, Italy, Spain and Germany.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Instead, this current iteration of the Australian national team has a number of players playing domestically in Australia, a smattering across Asia and North America, and the rest in Europe in places like Turkey, Norway, Denmark, Scotland and Belgium.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-x wp-block-embed-x\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"embed-x\"><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;We don&#39;t have players in the big leagues anymore&#8230;&quot; has to be the worst argument re: Socceroos.<br><br>We just got played off the park by a side comprised of players solely by \ud83c\uddf8\ud83c\udde6 <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/SPL_EN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@SPL_EN<\/a>. Qatar won <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/afcasiancup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@afcasiancup<\/a> with only \ud83c\uddf6\ud83c\udde6 <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/QSL_EN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@QSL_EN<\/a> players.<br><br>It&#39;s about maximising the talent you have.<\/p>&mdash; Paul Williams (@PaulWilliams_85) <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/PaulWilliams_85\/status\/1508949870459355136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 29, 2022<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.x.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This, in the eyes of many, is a key reason for the downturn in fortunes of the Socceroos, who are having to navigate the playoffs for the second successive qualifying campaign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that conveniently ignores the fact that Australia, with a team of players playing in various European leagues, were played off the park by a side comprised wholly from the Saudi Pro League; which suggests a deeper examination is required, not only of that flawed theory, but the perception and understanding of football globally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Never has it been more evident that where you play doesn\u2019t matter, and yet in so much of the discourse it apparently does, which speaks to the broader question of how value players and the leagues in which they play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Making it in Europe has for so long been the measuring stick that we seem incapable of properly measuring and valuing talent that doesn\u2019t follow that now well-trodden path.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But what does \u2018making it\u2019 even mean? Such a term is very subjective. Is it just playing in Europe at whatever level? Is it playing in one of the \u2018Big Five\u2019 leagues? Is it playing in Europe\u2019s elite continental competitions? Is it winning silverware?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How would the perception of this Saudi Arabian side change were they to have a smattering of players across Europe in leagues like Belgium, Holland or France?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This was a theme Indian national team defender <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theasiangame.net\/ro\/european-success-shouldnt-define-indian-players-jhingan\/\">Sandesh Jhingan touched upon recently when talking to <em>The Asian Game<\/em><\/a> about his own brief experience in Croatia and his decision to return to India after only a few injury-ravaged months.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI don\u2019t want people (in) my country to only believe only if you go to Europe can you be considered as a great player,\u201d the 28-year-old said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI don\u2019t want people to have that, if Sandesh Jhingan or any other junior kid, if he wants to validate or prove himself that \u2018I\u2019m going to be a legend\u2019, that he can only do it only if he plays for a bigger club in Europe. This is I don\u2019t believe is the right way of looking at it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And yet it is so often the way it is looked at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">During the broadcast of the Socceroos&#8217; clash against Saudi Arabia on Channel 10 in Australia, the commentators made repeated mentions of the fact that, despite their abundant talent, Saudi players had little to no experience in Europe. Intentional or not, it was a clear reference point for how their talent was to be valued and appreciated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-x wp-block-embed-x\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"embed-x\"><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"und\" dir=\"ltr\">\ud83d\udcf8&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/salem_d29?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@salem_d29<\/a> \ud83d\udc4f\ud83d\udc4f\ud83d\udc4f <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/CMq8mwtjOE\">pic.twitter.com\/CMq8mwtjOE<\/a><\/p>&mdash; \u0641\u064a\u0627\u0631\u064a\u0627\u0644 (@Arab_Villarreal) <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Arab_Villarreal\/status\/998137119695691776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 20, 2018<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.x.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More mention was made of Al-Dawsari\u2019s single La Liga appearance for Villarreal than the fact he led Al Hilal to an historic AFC Champions League success this past year &#8211; in fact, in two of the past three years &#8211; which speaks to how, not just here in Australia, but elsewhere, we value and respect football across the globe. It\u2019s either Europe or it\u2019s nothing. A single La Liga appearance is apparently worth more than two continental successes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Make no mistake, Al-Dawsari, the 2021 AFC Champions League MVP, along with a handful of his Saudi teammates like Al-Faraj or Kanno, have the talent to play in Europe and it would be fantastic to see them do so. But their choice not to should not define them as players. It shouldn\u2019t be \u201che\u2019s a fantastic player, but\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sport.optus.com.au\/articles\/os19200\/cultural-cringe-australia-0-ac-milan-2-princess-park-melbourne-22-july-1993\">This theme was eloquently explored further by John Didulica<\/a>, the respected former head of Australia\u2019s player\u2019s union and current Melbourne Victory director of football, in his excellent \u2018<em>Football Belongs<\/em>\u2019 series of essays for Optus Sport.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Referencing Australia\u2019s cultural cringe, which can absolutely be extrapolated more broadly across Asia such is the reverence for European football across the continent, Didulica explored this theme by focusing on the career of one of Australia\u2019s finest talents, South Melbourne\u2019s Paul Trimboli, whose list of achievements is as long as any in the game in Australia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAssessed objectively, Trimboli\u2019s on-field achievements would rank him among the greatest players the Australian game has seen, at least during the modern era,\u201d Didulica wrote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIn 2012, when the Johnny Warren Football Foundation conducted its Greatest Ever Australian Footballer fundraiser, its panel of experts augmented by a public voting nominated 58 players from which to choose a \u201cgreatest ever male player\u201d (Kewell) and a \u201cgreatest ever first XI\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cTrimboli was not among the nominees. Moreover, his omission would not have raised an eyebrow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He continued: \u201cTrimboli\u2019s anonymity has as much to do with his understated humility as it does the layered framework through which success in Australian football is assessed. Like the cinema and literature before it, as football evolved into a fluid global enterprise, our perception of a player\u2019s quality was judged against his success outside of Australian football; with local achievements depreciated. Trimboli never proactively sought out a career in Europe.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSignificantly, and unlike generations before him, this came a time when there was an expectation that our best and brightest would leave for Europe; the same way many of our finest writers would find their way to London a century ago.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-x wp-block-embed-x\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"embed-x\"><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Take a bow, son! \ud83c\udfa9<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/salem_d29?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@salem_d29<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Alhilal_EN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Alhilal_EN<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/hashtag\/ACL2021?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#ACL2021<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/hashtag\/PRSvHIL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#PRSvHIL<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/C8LrQwKEW0\">pic.twitter.com\/C8LrQwKEW0<\/a><\/p>&mdash; #ACLElite | #ACLTwo (@TheAFCCL) <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TheAFCCL\/status\/1449473679281250304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 16, 2021<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.x.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Getting to the heart of the matter, which applies equally to our appreciation of Asian footballers &#8211; such as Al-Dawsari &#8211; in a global context, Didulica wrote:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cTrimboli could not be admired by Australians for his quality alone; our perception of his quality needed to be contextualised against either a universal standard or by the perception of Australians that was being projected throughout the world; which in a football context is invariably appeasing Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAs A.A Phillips outlined in defining cultural cringe, developing a universal standard for the assessment of the quality of Australian cultural outcomes, in this case Australian footballers, is a positive thing. And it is. There must, however, be limits to the extent to which we are deferential to a global standard and abrogate any sense of self-worth.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Didulica could have easily been talking about a player like Al-Dawsari rather than Trimboli. The names may be different, but the theme is the same.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The fact is this: Al-Dawsari plays for Asia\u2019s biggest club in Al Hilal, winning two of the past three AFC Champions League titles and was named MVP for the 2021 tournament. He\u2019s been central to the renaissance of not only Al Hilal, which has seen them become one of Asia\u2019s most dominant and feared clubs, but also the Saudi national team over the past five years, even scoring a dramatic 95th minute winner against Egypt at the last World Cup in Russia. Since then he has only got better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And yet there is, and seemingly always will be a \u2018but\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That, however, says more about the person saying it than it does Al-Dawsari. He doesn\u2019t need the external validation that would come from playing in Europe. He does his talking on the pitch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And as we saw in Jeddah last week, and across this entire campaign, that talking says plenty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Photo:<\/strong> twitter\/SaudiNT<\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saudi Arabia stamped their qualification for Qatar 2022 with a display against Australia at Jeddah\u2019s King Abdullah Sports City Stadium that was the perfect encapsulation of modern Saudi football. They were disciplined and aggressive. 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